Black while navigating white-space

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Invited to the cookout? I don’t think so.

When I was in my early twenties, I always  give props to those white guys who sought after black women.  Young and ignorant, I always said, “Being with a woman makes you a man, but being with a black woman makes you a Superman!”

The magic behind the white friend who dates black women is the level of extra commonality (which I now know as counterfeit), that isn’t present in the common white man.  You see, being black in America we always have to code-switch and be mindful that your world as a white person isn’t our world at all.  It’s very much like we are pretending to be white in a white world, while knowing good and well that we are not.  And in socializing in whiteface we tend to take care of the needs — automatically — of our white peers delicate sociological bubbles before our own.  Part of this, is not putting our white buddy in a situation which makes them look racist.

Two different worlds

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Navigating white-space

So long story short, us black men navigating through white-space typically pump the brakes in regards to our pursuit and love of black women when it comes to sharing thoughts with our white buddies.

We simply don’t expect white men to judge black women properly.  We expect white men to view our black women as others, because the entirety of white society views ALL black people as others.  Assuming otherwise simply isn’t safe.

So when a white man confirms the notion that they like black women, it seems like, “Cool, someone else who I can TRULY talk to about ALL women!”  I can now share more life experience, like how friends supposed to do.  Cookout passes were being passed out, left and right.

Now, I side-eye the fuck out of them.  Needless to say, I ain’t handing out passes to the cookout anymore.

I cannot see them the same way anymore

Knowing what I know now about how race and sex intersects, I have a categorically huge suspicion of white men who seek black women.  I don’t see that commonality I saw anymore; these men are going after black women for different reasons than I.  Or, it might be better said that those white men are getting a different satisfaction out of dating black women among black people.

This is about how I don’t see a particular folk like I used to.  I see these white men as toxic white allies.

One problem I identify is a great amount of white saviorism involved.  I really don’t hear about this enough; most interracial relationship critique is aimed at black men, even I have placed word in that direction.

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Does Olivia Pope deem white men better than black men?

Remember when I wrote that one huge article on white allies (assets)?  Remember where I pointed out how most white allies’ motivation doesn’t come from wanting to dismantle systemic racism, and how their core motivations typically come from the still-white supremacist desire to be better than other whites?  Well in this issue there’s a sinister motivation that’s adjacent to the white ally situation.

Most white men who pursue black women get a genuinely white supremacist satisfaction out of the notion of being better than black men.  It gets worse when their white supremacist desires are validated by dating “woke” black women who critique or bash black men.  I believe these white men who date woke, anti-black-male-speaking black women get a white supremacist’s high off of it all.  They might not weigh in; they should be smart enough to know it’s not their place.  But they do get a racist satisfaction out of the notion of beating a black man physically and emotionally.  And there lies my problem with them all — white men, love the notion of being a superior select for minority women.  This is still white supremacy in motion.

When it comes to getting to know white allies concerning this anti-racism struggle, eventually that white ally will come to think that they are better than you are.  They will eventually think that they know your struggle better than you do.  They will think you are wrong about your own experiences.  Now, if white people begin thinking they are a better anti-racism fighter than a black person (which is a position tied to white supremacy), what makes you think that they won’t think the same concerning intimate relationships with black people?

This situation gets further problematic when you factor in “woke” folks.  White men who are apparently “woke” seem to be invincible, perfect saviors when woke black women highlight every issue with men as a “black men” issue, while dating a white man — the original oppressor — as if she cannot get emotionally terrorized, gaslighted, abused by a white man.  And yes, the original oppressor, the prime sinister, has to be mentioned for it is not a moot point.  When Very Smart Brothas published the column, Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People, it sparked a comically histrionic but very valid outrage; white people have not vacated their premises in exercising systemic racism which oppress, suppress and even persecute minorities, which includes black women.  Because our most intelligent black women elevate these white men, unintentionally or not, as flawless men, these white men are capable to doing the most damage to our black women due to a great level of trust invested.  This is another problem where you as the black man get to cradle wounded sisters in your arms, super-pissed at the fact that even you trusted the white fellow as a brother or a cousin.

Conclusion

Let’s get one thing straight; this isn’t about jealousy, envy, or the fuckboy notion that all women belongs to my singular self.  This isn’t about my desire; I’m good. This is about how I don’t see a particular folk like I used to.  I see these white men as toxic white allies.  Due to the fact that too many of these white men get their white supremacist jollies off by dating black women among black men —  on top of dealing more damage to black women — I’m no longer passing out high-fives and cookout badges.  Sure, it’s none of my business.  But I’m still side-eying.

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Written by Johnny Silvercloud

The Soul Brother #1 of a Kind. Consequentialist street photographer abolitionist writer/speaker who stands for any oppressed peoples. I do it because every man and woman deserves freedom of thought -- especially black folks.

38 comments

  1. I think there is a continuum of that sort of behavior, there are white men who don’t actively pursue black women who will fall in love with someone in their orbit, but I confess I’m very suspicious of any white man who actively pursues black women, and you’re right, white men who pursue “woke” Black women are doubly suspect. We call it fetishizing, and I find that distasteful. We’re not “people” to them. They love what we represent about them.

    I think the same parallel exists in regards to black men who date white women who like to bash black women (and there are,distressingly,a lot of those). There’s a certain class of white Woman who does much the same thing, to show how “woke” she is to other white people, and try prove their superiority to black women. So if you’ve got White women doing such a thing, then certainly you’re going to get white men who are trying, not just to impress black men, but impress other white people by proving how not-racist they are.

    I don’t think this is always the case, (I’m attracted to all sorts of men) but white men (and non black MoC) fetishizing black women, will always get the side-eye from me.

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  2. If there was a white man who was actively chasing after me, and really wanted to date me, I would be horribly conflicted because of that whole original oppressor thing. It’s really hard for me to think past that, especially with the way so many of them are acting right now. I’d feel like I was betraying my ancestors or something. There’s definitely a part of me that believes there is no such thing as a “woke” white man,and I can’t get past that. I can’t say I’d be open to dating them, but I don’t want to pass on someone who genuine likes me either, so that man’s application, to be with me, would be rigorously vetted. I mean rigorously. (I’d dig into his past like the FBI.)

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    1. I agree. I don’t think white people can truly be “woke” about the black experience of living in America. I also believe the side-eye and rigorously vetting a white person who shows interest in us is a natural reaction derived from the African American experience.

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    2. Vet all men…ALL. Black men always claim White men have nothing but malevolent intentions toward us, when the actual evidence points to Black men as being the most detrimental to the psychological and physical well-being of Black women. Look at the evidence. Do the math. Use logic. We date out less than anybody, and most of the trauma we experience at the hands of men come from men who look like us. Go figure.

      Other men can’t just love us, because we’re good women and loveable… and beautiful. Nope. There must be impure motives – they want to oppress us, or fetishize us, or take our money (Serena).

      LOL. Smh.

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      1. Yeah, I’m going to go with proximity on this one. We get hurt by those people we spend most of our time around, but you know what, I don’t spend almost any time around white men and they can still find ways to fuck up my whole life just on a whim., so that’s where the side-eye comes into play.

        Yes, ALL men should be heavily vetted. I do that to all of them, but a White man will get that special treatment because I’m less likely to understand and know exactly where he’s coming from and/or why.

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      2. I understand proximity well. You don’t seem to. Black men are no better than any other men, when it comes to the treatment of Black women. That’s my point. If we base who we should date based on past behavior from men, Black men wouldn’t be suitable choices for many of us. Should we not date you? Perhaps proximity is the problem. We need to consider those who aren’t closest to us.

        Men are men. There are good ones, and bad ones. Black women deserve to be loved and cherished. That’s it.

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      3. NAILED it. WHO benefits from black women being endlessly suspicious of any man who might like us or even, GASP ‘prefer’ us? Black women are SO unlike other women on the planet that liking us is ‘dirty’ or a ‘fetish’ or ‘distasteful’? I CALL BULLSHIT. Black women are incredible and if not for the way we are socially cornered, EVERY MAN would be after us. How is it these ‘other’ men are snapping up these intelligent sisters? WHY aren’t the writer and his black male peers snapping up these women first? Would you even notice these sisters if they weren’t being noticed by ‘other’ men? To put it another way, do YOU only see these women as worthy once ‘other’ men do?

        Everyone else is out here mixing and mingling, but SOME folks want black women at home waiting on our twistouts to dry for their IDEALBLACKMAN to arrive. And he may, but he may not and sometimes someone else does. Be happy. Because Lord knows enough black women wait WELL into their 30s and 40s and 50s for a brother who is never coming to arrive.

        Forget ‘intentions’, find a man who treats you like gold CONSISTENTLY. Of course men compete with other men. Women don’t control the patriarchy. Smart men will be out here making sure THEIR woman is happy and honored and feeling special so no ‘other’ men get her attention.

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      4. //I understand proximity well. You don’t seem to.//

        No you don’t; you just tried to play nonsensical fallacious logic concerning such. The fact that you’re more likely to crash your car within 5 miles of your home doesn’t make your home more dangerous than driving on the Moon; you drive the most within 5 miles, therefore you’re more likely to crash there.

        Messing with nothing but white men will equal more abuse, heartbreak, gaslighting, whatever from white men. You think all these white women are infinitely happy as soon as they get a single white guy? Stop playing.

        //Black men are no better than any other men, when it comes to the treatment of Black women.//

        If black women are better for black men than the rest, then black men are better for black women than the rest. Period. There’s the understanding of being black in America.

        //That’s my point.//

        Your point is weak.

        //If we base who we should date based on past behavior from men, Black men wouldn’t be suitable choices for many of us.//

        That’s ridiculous. Otherwise you’re just racial profiling like a cop… or a white supremacist.

        //Should we not date you?//

        You’re a white supremacy caping person, assuming you’re black here. There’s a word for you that rhymes with “soon”. I would NEVER date you; you’re a female Ben Carson. You’re a wannabe white girl.

        //We need to consider those who aren’t closest to us.//

        You can always attempt to join NASA and see if you can meet an alien or something. I rather be grounded on reality, loving black folk with the love we all need.

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      5. Sadly, the law of proximity theory does not reflect well on black men.

        A black woman is killed every 19 hours in America. And a black woman is 3 times more likely to be murdered by an intimate partner than a white woman. That rate rises to 7 times more likely if the woman is pregnant, and 11 times more likely within the first year of pregnancy.

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      6. Never said “mess with White men”. I said VET ALL MEN. Do you understand what that means?

        Now, your issues with White men dating Black women are your own.

        Peace.

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      7. So true, some black men do not want black women and at the same time do not want anyone else to have them. Somehow they want us to remain the option they come back to abuse once they have exhausted all their options of putting women of other race above us.. i struggle to get my head around the hypocrisy and double standards of some of these men.

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  3. “Let’s get one thing straight; this isn’t about jealousy, envy, or the fuckboy notion that all women belongs to my singular self.”

    Um…. YEAH it is.

    “Proximity” my left pinky toe! There is a culture of hatred and abusive vitriol spewed at Black womem on a regular basis, and you think I’m worried about the boogeyman White man than one of YOU who has a proven track record with Black womem of being abusive and disrespectful?

    Compared to other racial groups Black women experience higher rates of intimate partner homicide when compared to their White counterparts. Black women also experience intimate partner violence at a rate 35% higher than that of white women, and about 2.5 times the rate of women of other races. The NUMBER 2 KILLER OF BLACK WOMEN AGES 15-24 IS HOMICIDE. The other races of women don’t even come CLOSE.

    Please SPARE black women this selfish diatribe. We’ve been catching hell from Black men for decades now.

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  4. If you’re in a happy relationship with a black woman, then why are you obsessed with white men swirling with black women?? That’s strange.

    Black men as a collective treat Black women like garbage and you’re side-eyeing White men? How crazy is that?

    Black women, swirl with whoever you want and do not listen to black people who have a cultic attitude that you should exclude White men from your dating pool as a method of “fighting white supremacy.” Do not listen to black people who spend most of their time focusing on the invisible motives of “suspected white supremacists” and have less to say about the visible tangible abuse, misogynoir, assault, and neglect of Black men. Do not listen to black people who refer to random White men who have never harmed black women as “oppressors” but don’t refer to black men as oppressors when they have actually mistreated, raped, pimped, abused, and murdered black women and black children.

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    1. One article isn’t indicative of an “obsession” Evelyn. The fact that you over-exaggerate here points out that really, you have no point to make. You cannot strawman someone’s subject and then approach it. Nothing here hinder’s black women OR YOURSELF from hollering at whoever you want to.

      Second, I already wrote an article on white women and black men, it’s right here: https://afrosapiophile.com/2017/12/07/white-chicks/

      ^The strange thing about this article that has strong words for black men giving white women a free pass, is how not only did you not knew this existed, but scores of black men didn’t show up to defend their white saviors as you clearly are. Thanks for reading, I suppose. Perhaps you should look at more articles here before passing judgement.

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  5. Interesting commentary. And a little funny to be frank. So you don’t see White Men as allies anymore because “too many get their white supremacist jollies off of dating black women around black men”? I read this article, what is the basis for this conclusion? Is it a feeling, do you have an evidence to substantiate this? I know this is an opinion piece but I simply don’t see it. Is it projection? I have known many black men to flaunt their white women in front of Black women and white men. Is it the same as that?

    The other that I noticed is that you actually believe White men need to feel superior to black men. White men don’t have to do anything to feel superior to black men because for the most part their collective conscious already believe that they are. I have dated interracially since my 20’s, I have never known a white man that I dated seriously to actually worry about being superior to black men. Sorry man but I gotta laugh at this. Again, is this projection?

    Also, and my final point, you stated “on top of dealing more damage to black women”, There is no other group that “damages” black women more that black men. As another poster stated, we are most at risk around our own phenotype male, with DV rates and homicide well above women of other races. Sorry but that’s dangerous thinking, I gotta call BS on this entire piece. Under the guise of caring so much about Black women your side eyeing white men taking an interest in us. I truly hope the other eye is on your black brothers that are harming us. Perhaps turn BOTH eyes that way….As they say, don’t hack at the branch, when the damn root is rotten.

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    1. First and foremost, thank you for reading Yolee B.

      Before I begin I’ll add that I’ve been writing since 2013 or so, and I already have a serious side-eye placed on black women not checking these white women out there: https://afrosapiophile.com/2017/12/07/white-chicks/

      ^Now, it’s lunacy to expect someone to actually do something similar to research and read more stuff someone has before acting like a singular article is 100% of someone’s standpoint concerning a topic that has multiple angles. It’s kinda of absurd to think that one article is supposed to cover the totality of what a single person thinks of IR dating. That too, is lunacy. I’m not going to go at black men and white chicks in this article BECAUSE I ALREADY WROTE THAT DAYS PRIOR. I’ll address some things you wrote here.

      //I have dated interracially since my 20’s, I have never known a white man that I dated seriously to actually worry about being superior to black men. //

      ^Either you are lucky and vet folks super-well, OR you’re not trying to see what’s what out there. If you are super-fixed on having a white man by any means necessary, then you’re going to overlook a LOT of stuff, plain and simple. Second, you are a woman are not privy to the “lockeroom talk” that men engage in. These white men were friends and associates on mine in the years I’ve been living on this planet. A man WILL KNOW things about men that you aren’t going to gather because they hide that mess behind lockeroom walls.

      //White men don’t have to do anything to feel superior to black men because for the most part their collective conscious already believe that they are.//

      ^I AGREE, but the FACT that someone doesn’t have to do something doesn’t preclude them from doing something. For example, a person doesn’t have to cheat, but it happens. Buttressing the notion that something doesn’t “have” to be done means it NEVER OCCURS is categorically flawed reasoning. Unless you are arguing that white men are perfect… which is also flawed and false, this fact is moot. It doesn’t preclude stank-ass behaviors described in the article.

      //There is no other group that “damages” black women more that black men.//

      ^By way of proximity. If you placed genocide on every black man (which seems like something a LOT of women posting here would enjoy or something) and black men didn’t exist, white men would be the sole folk doing the totality of whatever ills you think you are dodging. White men are also the #1 abusers of white women, Asian on Asian, hello? Proximity is the reason, not skin color. Your fallacious logic is the same cops and white people have concerning “black on black crime” talk.

      In addition, you leave out the FACT that black men are the #1 lovers of black women… of course, this is because of proximity, but since you ignore proximity you have to factor in that black love is GREAT THAN anything else any day of the week.

      Enjoy your white boyfriend, husband, whatever. This column isn’t about you; it’s about WHITE MEN.

      And lastly… White men have read this and engaged in self-reflection concerning this topic; keep in mind that white men is who this article is speaking to. White men engaging in self-reflection concerning IR dating is happening due to this publication. I have yet to see a white guy go on attack mode on this column. Why are you defending folk who never asked to be defended? It’s sad to watch black people defend whites… even when whites don’t feel threatened.

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      1. You draw a lot of conclusions, all without merit. I really do not care what you have written before…I am commenting on the CURRENT article and what it says. I am sure you have written about a bunch of topics, but please remember no one is obligated to research YOUR posting history in order to comment on what you are saying HERE and NOW. Each article should stand on its on…otherwise please place a disclaimer before anyone wastes more of their time reading.
        To address a few points: I could care less about locker room talk, anymore than you would care about bedroom talk. If in YOUR personal sphere you have experienced some things that make you “side-eye” while males, fine. This has NOT been my experience. Most of the WM I have dated (and friends have dated as my crew were never the NBABM types) had a love of black women but dated all kinds of women. I am not “defending” anyone, theres nothing to defend, its an opinion piece, is it not? And everyone is entitled to their opinion. Your automatic deduction that I am defending persons that have not asked for defense tells me you have a “Us or them” mindset, very typical of many black people. I simply relayed my experience as being totally different. As for reflections, I can only take your word that some white men have read this article and reflected….I think you think a lot of yourself and your writing, and btw that’s a good thing. And “enjoy your white boyfriend?” come on man, really. LOL!. I’m not going to get into the DV rates/abuse committed against black women because that would take too long, but the proximity issue was obvious, I didn’t see the point in mentioning it. However that does not explain the HIGHER rates of DV and Homicide experienced by black women considering we are in the minority. Moving on….

        I provided this opinion because frankly of late I am seeing a lot of BM on the internet send out “warnings” to black women about white men. Sorry, but your piece is neither original or singular. Similare pieces are all over and has a clear underlying message “STAY AWAY FROM WHITE MEN!”. Someone posted a link to this in my womens group and this link is among MANY similar articles that have come out the past year. Pieces written by black men offering unsolicited warnings and “advice” to black women about dating out. I wonder at this, and I find it funny (yes it is funny considering BM date/marry out at higher percentages than black women do, at least at this point and time) that a group of men have remained mostly silent on their brothers doing the very same thing that they are warning black women about. I guess thats just a mystery wrapped up in a riddle, never to be figured out. Anyway just my thoughts. Good bye.

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      2. //You draw a lot of conclusions, all without merit.//

        ^So do you. In fact, the fact that you don’t even care on the fact that this is about — and talking at — white men…. not black women is telling. Everything isn’t about you… even when you frequently attempt to make it so.

        //I really do not care what you have written before…I am commenting on the CURRENT article and what it says. I am sure you have written about a bunch of topics, but please remember no one is obligated to research YOUR posting history in order to comment on what you are saying HERE and NOW.//

        ^And no one is obligated to deem your issue, complaint, concerns valid being that you don’t care about facts. The FACT is, you cannot assume that you know 100% about someone off of ONE article. That’s categorically absurd, especially when you consider the conclusions you draw, without merit.

        //Each article should stand on its on…otherwise please place a disclaimer before anyone wastes more of their time reading.//

        ^The other article is hyperlinked in this article. Second, the article actually does stand on it’s own. It’s not about YOU, it’s about white men. It’s speaking to white men, not black women so unless you are a cis/het white male this ain’t about you. At all. No, it’s not about you. It’s not even talking to you. You are the equivalent to someone butting in a conversation you weren’t in. Walk off. Leave. This isn’t about you, it’s not talking to you.

        //To address a few points: I could care less about–//

        –Facts Experience beyond your own? Yeah I get that.

        //If in YOUR personal sphere you have experienced some things that make you “side-eye” while males, fine.//

        ^It’s not fine if you are sitting here complaining, correct?

        //This has NOT been my experience.//

        And the so-what factor is??? This isn’t about you. This is not talking to you; it’s talking to white men. You cannot speak FOR white men. You are not (assuming you’re not lying) a white male. Even with you being you, if this isn’t your experience, then take a walk. With black women commenting all across the board, it’s definitely the experience of SOME OF THESE BLACK WOMEN HERE, so does your experience overrides theirs? This isn’t about you. Your experience, or lack of, isn’t the defining end-all-be-all of of white men in relationships. I’m going to keep on repeating this until it is understood. This. Is. Not. About. You.

        //I am not “defending” anyone–//

        Defense is something some folks do either intentionally or by neglect (accident). You might not intend on defending white males here, but you are. There are secondary, and tertiary effects to things. Maybe you had a primary intent, but the side-effect is defending white men.

        //…frankly of late I am seeing a lot of BM on the internet send out “warnings” to black women about white men. Sorry, but your piece is neither original or singular.//

        Ah, so there it is. This article is placed among other ones that are similar. I don’t know about those other articles because this is more about my own observations on top of the experiences of black women and white men within my circles spanning across decades. This is, once again, written TO white males, NOT black women. Black women are NOT the subject; I imagine you’re a better writer than me, so you have to know that.

        //Similar pieces are all over and has a clear underlying message “STAY AWAY FROM WHITE MEN!”.//

        Trust me, as blunt as I am… If I intended to write a joint that says “stay away from white men” I would flat out EXPLICITLY say that. It would say that in the title, and the body, explicitly. I really don’t care who you date. In fact, I want you to be happy. But I’m side-eyeing a lot of these white men… based on what I know of them. Period. Saying I’m side-eyeing =/= black women stay away. I’m not a black woman myself so how can I tell black women what to do? Simple — this isn’t a piece that tells black women what to do. It’s a piece that tells white men to think on their actions and intent. White cis/het men, reflect on this. That’s what this is saying.

        //Someone posted a link to this in my womens group and this link is among MANY similar articles that have come out the past year.//

        ^I cannot control how these articles circulate. This isn’t for women, it’s for white males. I speak on white people a LOT on this forum so, it has to be understood that this is speaking at whites like most of what’s written here by myself.

        //Pieces written by black men offering unsolicited warnings and “advice” to black women about dating out.//

        ^This isn’t offering advice to black women “dating out”.

        //I wonder at this, and I find it funny (yes it is funny considering BM date/marry out at higher percentages than black women do, at least at this point and time) that a group of men have remained mostly silent on their brothers doing the very same thing that they are warning black women about.//

        I cannot speak for the 20,000,000+ black males out there. But the fact remains, that I have wrote on white women and black men (with the article targeting black men) already. Why not read this and share it with black men since it exists?
        https://afrosapiophile.com/2017/12/07/white-chicks/

        //Anyway just my thoughts. Good bye.//

        I wish you well for your new year.

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  6. After a long history of experiences in dating white men from multiple continents in varied social stratas, I can truly say that this article is spot on in summing up the conclusion I’ve recently come to about this subject. I can write a book on this topic alone.

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  7. Good article. I’m a black woman. I’m exclusive to BM. And I have personally experienced this “objectification” and “superiority complex” coming from White men who attempted to be with me. I will say that I’m confused on how you are using the word “woke”. Honestly, I’m confused how this generation is using the word woke to apply to Whites. From my understanding “woke” meant that you were a Black person who was “woke” to his or reality to the Black experience and oppression under this system. How can a person be woke without having the experience of being black and never being brainwashed about how this system oppresses them based on being Black when they are not Black? LOL! I don’t get it.

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    1. When I use the word “woke” here, I’m speaking of men who are very intelligent on the issues. There’s a lot of predatory men that exist, who speak the language of intersectionality and all, claim they are even bi or pansexual (but only go for women still), all types of stuff here. One thing I’ve learned this year is that not all “woke” folk are pro-black. There’s a lot of intelligent, folk out there who are not pro-black, but pro-self.

      Anyway, when I use woke here I understand that “wokeness” isn’t a full-spectrum awakening where actions meet their words. I’m speaking on folks who speak the part, sound the part, but due to underlying intentions or jollies, don’t perfectly execute the part.

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  8. I have only dated one white man who I felt like was a bit racist him and his family would make off the wall comments, but then in public they were completely different people. They would make comment like why do blacks have such big lips and they always made comments about the Obamas and one day his dad was like I don’t want you two to get married because it would ruin my chances of getting red headed grandchildren, but I don’t think all white men who date black women are that way. Out of all the white men I dated him and his family was by far the worst. I can understand you opinion, but some white men actually like black women aside from their color, some are very sexually attractive to us. I mean why wouldn’t they be… We are beautiful, strong, independent women.

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